Biography Posted March 13 Content Count: 1,866 Reputation: 1,362 Joined: 09/11/2020 Share Posted March 13 Hi all, Our DEV team is interested in your opinion on the following topic: VOIP IG. As it stands, only the police is allowed to use TS3 for its operations. There is a possibility to: Entirely get rid of of TS and have police radios IG. Introduce proximity VOIP via the phone for all members of the community. This means that all players would have the opportunity to use their phones as VOIP in potential situations like pursuits, foot chases, etc. The pros of this is that it gives all players an equal playing field. The cons of this is that it is unregulated, similar to the issues that PD is often accused of in TS. It further promotes more voice than text, which some of you might dislike. We are not implementing this unless a substantial number of members are in favor. This is an initiative started by the DEV team and we are simply gathering people's opinions and thoughts. The last discussion resulted in majority disapproval for this suggestion, however, we want to do it for a final time before we launch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WatchingEye Posted March 13 Content Count: 226 Reputation: 108 Joined: 08/31/2021 Share Posted March 13 As a soon-to-be LEO roleplayer here I'm gonna vouch for having TS used by LEO factions only and exclusively for pursuits ICly, everything else has to be roleplayed out, there's nothing much you can do to regulate things when it comes to metagaming with most VOIP implementations, even this phone thing that's being suggested. I think having it usable by LEO factions only puts a standard on those factions to obviously not metagame in IC teamspeak channels and its been the standard for way too long now to break away from it and allow everryone free unregulated access to this type of thing, simply put it's not feasible to have admins watch over every VOIP convo on the server to figure out if there's metagaming or not. 1 Quote Veritas Ex Cineribus Since 1854 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radreaper100 Posted March 13 Content Count: 7 Reputation: 17 Joined: 02/01/2023 Age: 25 Share Posted March 13 this is a heavy rp server. as a longtime leo roleplayer myself i can tell you that TS contributes to low quality, shitty roleplay more than anything else. it becomes 5 people huddled in a channel distracted and metagaming with their police status and its never enforced. they dont need an added advantage of coordination via TS, work on perfecting that ingame. yes, pursuits are hard to call in in the middle of rp but this is why you prioritize engaging in pursuits with a partner (which is totally not taking into account the NYPD's sparse pursuit policy, they just dont do it) 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedOfThought Posted March 13 Content Count: 218 Reputation: 89 Joined: 10/28/2021 Share Posted March 13 As Watching said above, I fully support using TS, however I think it needs to be strictly monitored. It should only be used when actively updating in a pursuit, and as soon as the situation becomes static, the in-game radio should be utilized, and I will be monitoring these channels closely to make sure this is met. There is no point in using TS for anything else. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWussWuss Posted March 13 Content Count: 7 Reputation: 2 Joined: 07/13/2022 Share Posted March 13 I'm in favor of in-game radios for police so that other players can have a level playing field in terms of reaction time. Metagame is not really something I'm worried about when it comes to PD. I've very, very rarely heard anything related to TS being used for MG. That's not to say that doesn't happen but it's not a widespread issue. As for phone VOIP that's a little more.... FiveMish. Not a big fan of that. PD needs to use VOIP in some shape or form because of the nature of the situations they can find themselves in. Would I be entirely opposed to it so that the "bad guys" can also have an equal reaction time to situations? Possibly not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radreaper100 Posted March 13 Content Count: 7 Reputation: 17 Joined: 02/01/2023 Age: 25 Share Posted March 13 35 minutes ago, SpeedOfThought said: As Watching said above, I fully support using TS, however I think it needs to be strictly monitored. It should only be used when actively updating in a pursuit, and as soon as the situation becomes static, the in-game radio should be utilized, and I will be monitoring these channels closely to make sure this is met. There is no point in using TS for anything else. i gotta be real with you strictly monitored is echoed everywhere and this is the same policy for other rp servers, it always devolves into shit-tier quality and a metafest. people spend more time socializing ooc than ic. this is a roleplay server, a serious one at that. we dont need the advantages provided by using our real voices and LARPing as police officers. im here to be immersed u know? and its hard to do that when ppl r giggling in TS circlejerking off-topic (and it definitely affects scenes, let me tell you. wow, people cannot pay attention when they're talking with one another) and i especially lose my ability to take it seriously when the 22 y/o petite female swat lieutenant calls mutual aid in their deep eastern European accent (love n respect to euros) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascendency Posted March 13 Content Count: 38 Reputation: 22 Joined: 01/06/2022 Share Posted March 13 I do completely deny usage of TS3, VOIP or such things that require microphone on law enforcement. But if you ask my idea on this topic, I'd prefer TS3. It would look more reliable than in-game system. Personally, I'd not trust voice suppression, it might be important sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix32412 Posted March 13 Content Count: 1 Reputation: 0 Joined: 09/28/2021 Share Posted March 13 45 minutes ago, radreaper100 said: i gotta be real with you strictly monitored is echoed everywhere and this is the same policy for other rp servers, it always devolves into shit-tier quality and a metafest. people spend more time socializing ooc than ic. this is a roleplay server, a serious one at that. we dont need the advantages provided by using our real voices and LARPing as police officers. im here to be immersed u know? and its hard to do that when ppl r giggling in TS circlejerking off-topic (and it definitely affects scenes, let me tell you. wow, people cannot pay attention when they're talking with one another) and i especially lose my ability to take it seriously when the 22 y/o petite female swat lieutenant calls mutual aid in their deep eastern European accent (love n respect to euros) This is true, but ultimately it comes down to the people advocating that these changes will be implemented, and in most cases on servers this was completely disregarded, because everyone became everyone's friend and nobody cared about the rule. I'm a supporter of the usage of TS for the reasons many people already mentioned so I won't repeat, but I truly hope that supervisory and above here will be more strict on the case of metagaming and in general, messing around in a patrol channel (should the decision stay on the TS one) and actually enforce punishments on those that are trolls. The problem of having a partner with you is that they might be a slow-typer and by the time they type down a street name, you might already be in the one next to it, or something similar. Its just an extremely unreliable method of "updating mid pursuit". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westford Posted March 13 Content Count: 69 Reputation: 41 Joined: 12/22/2021 Share Posted March 13 I firmly believe to maintain a serious environment, using TS3 for LEO will be essential. That said, the usage of VOIP for phones could lead to metagame regardless of monitoring. 1 Quote Jensen Smythe - Editor-in-Chief of The Liberty Tree & Creator of SmytheDaily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radreaper100 Posted March 13 Content Count: 7 Reputation: 17 Joined: 02/01/2023 Age: 25 Share Posted March 13 16 minutes ago, Phoenix32412 said: This is true, but ultimately it comes down to the people advocating that these changes will be implemented, and in most cases on servers this was completely disregarded, because everyone became everyone's friend and nobody cared about the rule. I'm a supporter of the usage of TS for the reasons many people already mentioned so I won't repeat, but I truly hope that supervisory and above here will be more strict on the case of metagaming and in general, messing around in a patrol channel (should the decision stay on the TS one) and actually enforce punishments on those that are trolls. The problem of having a partner with you is that they might be a slow-typer and by the time they type down a street name, you might already be in the one next to it, or something similar. Its just an extremely unreliable method of "updating mid pursuit". okay so you lose the suspect. whats the issue there exactly? you're ic law enforcement, not server police. big distinction between the two. the whole ts3 + voip thing is just hugely unnecessary imo, it leads to degraded roleplay quality, and its unfair for people on the illegal side. big no from me but i respect that people grew up with it in the gta community n cant shake it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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